PyMS v1.2.1, Updated: June 4, 2009 Options

[bajadulce Santa Cruz, California]

PYAI all of a sudden started locking up upon launch and wouldn't let me open any files. The program then crashed if you tried to close it. All of this without any warning. I only found out there was a new pyms when I opened PYIce. Apparently if you have an active internet connection, the old PYAI won't function unless you come here and download the newer one?

[poiuy_qwert Canada]

There should have been a dialog saying that there is a newer version and you should go update. It had a small bug that made the main window freeze until you pressed the Ok button (fixed the problem in the new version), but it should have been fine after that. Did you not get the dialog at all, just the freeze?

[bajadulce Santa Cruz, California]

No dialog. The program (v1.0) opens and everything looks normal at the main window until you try and click something and nothing. If you try and close the program, it crashes. I have downloaded the newer version, but haven't installed anything yet.

Bump!
I have delayed installing the new version as I was curious to see if my old version would start working due to a change in the online check, but no dice. I really don't agree with this idea that a perfectly working program becomes non-functional with a new update and forces users to download and install something new. Especially something new that hasn't been tested. What if there was a small bug in the new program? Users would have no way to use their older version. I like the notification that a new version exists. I don't like that the notification can't be turned off and that the old files no longer function.

Nonetheless, I have now installed the new PYAI as I hd no other choice and no bugs to report so far and now there is apparently some other windows file I need to download. So i'll have to report back when I get everything working.

EDIT .. ok found what I need in the "docs" folder. I know this seems really obvious to most, but a lot of ppl won't recognize docs as a place to go for help and documentation. PYMS main folder could really use a shortcut to these .html files right in plain view. Something like "HELP.html"

EDIT2.. ok apparently there are some more additional steps I have to do with command window etc, but I don't have the time right now. And the documentation shows that there wasn't any changes to PYAI? All I wanted to do was open up the insane Terran script to answer a question in another forum.

EDIT3.. I downloaded the PIL files, but I was under the impression that this was all I needed. Apparently I also need to have python installed on my computer for this latest version. I recently just reformatted this mini-laptop and it has a minimal number of programs on it. I don't have a use for Python and would rather keep my sleek minimalistic hard drive as it is. I only use PYAI. How do I get the old 1.0 version which is identical to the new pyai to stop checking for a new PYMS?

EDIT4.. OK, I discovered the windowed version had an update as well. I had forgotten that there were 2 versions. The new Pyms documentation that is included in this "GUI" version doesn't mention anything about the windowed version and PYAI's notification is broken, so no link to the main page. I discovered the new windowed version after visiting pyms home page.

Here's what the documentation for Windows Exe Installation says that is included in the "GUI" version:

Just extract the PyMS folder somewhere on your computer and run the exe's, thats it.

It should read "STOP! PyMs has two versions. The more popular windowed version is available as a different download. Visit pyms home page to download it."

[poiuy_qwert Canada]

I have delayed installing the new version as I was curious to see if my old version would start working due to a change in the online check, but no dice. I really don't agree with this idea that a perfectly working program becomes non-functional with a new update and forces users to download and install something new. Especially something new that hasn't been tested. What if there was a small bug in the new program? Users would have no way to use their older version. I like the notification that a new version exists. I don't like that the notification can't be turned off and that the old files no longer function.[/url]

Thats why its called a Bug. You could not have fixed the problem yourself.

Nonetheless, I have now installed the new PYAI as I hd no other choice and no bugs to report so far and now there is apparently some other windows file I need to download. So i'll have to report back when I get everything working.

EDIT .. ok found what I need in the "docs" folder. I know this seems really obvious to most, but a lot of ppl won't recognize docs as a place to go for help and documentation. PYMS main folder could really use a shortcut to these .html files right in plain view. Something like "HELP.html"

EDIT2.. ok apparently there are some more additional steps I have to do with command window etc, but I don't have the time right now. And the documentation shows that there wasn't any changes to PYAI? All I wanted to do was open up the insane Terran script to answer a question in another forum.

EDIT3.. I downloaded the PIL files, but I was under the impression that this was all I needed. Apparently I also need to have python installed on my computer for this latest version. I recently just reformatted this mini-laptop and it has a minimal number of programs on it. I don't have a use for Python and would rather keep my sleek minimalistic hard drive as it is. I only use PYAI. How do I get the old 1.0 version which is identical to the new pyai to stop checking for a new PYMS?
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EDIT4.. OK, I discovered the windowed version had an update as well. I had forgotten that there were 2 versions.

So you downloaded the source version incorrectly? Well the PyMS homepage is the only official place where the download is available, and its not my fault if the person didn't read the link that they pressed. One clearly states its the "Source" version, and right above it it says it requires Python and PIL, while the other is the "Windows EXE" version. (oh, and PyAI did have updates which are listed in the docs)

Here's what the documentation for Windows Exe Installation says that is included in the "GUI" version:

Just extract the PyMS folder somewhere on your computer and run the exe's, thats it.

It should read "STOP! PyMs has two versions. The more popular windowed version is available as a different download. Visit pyms home page to download it."

The documentation assumes you have already downloaded the correct version.

[bajadulce Santa Cruz, California]

So you downloaded the source version incorrectly?

No, I downloaded the source version inadvertently.

One day my program stopped working. I came to the site and saw on the main page a link that said "PYMS v1.1.0 Released". I clicked that link which brought me to this topic. The topic referenced the first post where lo and behold there was a link to the "GUI" version. Now, being the dumbass I am, I assumed GUI meant non-command line "windowed" version and so I downloaded the link while at the same time paying attention that I was informed that something about window users etc and that I might possibly need some additional programs. Ok, my thought process was that you had discovered a solution to some of the past problems and these additional programs were a solution. The first post of this thread doesn't state anything about 2 versions. Only until I went to the main page did I discover that there was a second PYMS. Which btw, was still listed as v1.0. I have since edited it.

To compound me being a dumbass, the only reference to the "windowed" version in the "GUI" documentation that I inadvertently downloaded is for the most part "run the exe's, that's it." No mention that this refers to a completely different package.

The documentation assumes you have already downloaded the correct version.

This spells nothing but trouble and in my 20+ years in the construction industry and of "assuming" things of what I was told or what so called "experts" of their trade claimed, I have lost thousands and thousands of dollars as well as incredible amounts of wasted time. Never assume anything.

[poiuy_qwert Canada]

Ah, I though I had done with the first post what I did with the other sites threads (link to main PyMS page), so I'll change that.

The documentation isn't about downloading the program. Why would you download a program to find out where to download the program? With the links all pointing to the main PyMS page there should be no problems except if the user doesn't read what they click.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[bajadulce Santa Cruz, California]

The documentation isn't about downloading the program. Why would you download a program to find out where to download the program?

No, but any reference to Program A in Documentation B should state "Download Program A ... ". And Documentation in Program B shouldn't include directions for Program A, without some indication that Program A is an entirely different program.

To compound the confusion, PyMS "GUI" and PyMS "exe's" isn't the best labeling. This doesn't differentiate between the two versions very well. Both are GUI's and both are .exes.

Nonetheless, the new PyMSv1.1 "exe" works great btw, and I'm sure that the 1/500 user that is interested in PyMSv1.1 "GUI" will find no problems with it either.

[poiuy_qwert Canada]

v1.1.1 has been released, get it on the main PyMS page! This version fixes many bugs, adds new features, and adds the new program PyPCX. Enjoy!

[poiuy_qwert Canada]

There was a version inconsistency in the newest version, it has been fixed and reuploaded, so if you downloaded it before 6 hours or so ago then redownload.

[poiuy_qwert Canada]

PyMS v1.2.0 has been released. Some highlights from the changes are:

General:
-Totally revamped MPQ and settings handling. This also means no PyMS program should ever hog your MPQ's anymore
-On Windows all resizeable programs now save their maximized state between uses
PyAI:
-PyAI now keeps track of your aiscript.bin and bwscript.bin's file sizes and displays them in the statusbar
-The Script Editor now shows at most 5 of the script ID's (that were selected when it was opened) in its title
PyGRP:
-You can now select multiple bmp's to import instead of being stuck with the "same name" mechanic (which PyGRP uses for the command line bmp to grp conversions)
-Added a "Transparent Index" option (like SFGrpConv) to choose which index in the palette will be used for transparency (can only be changed when a GRP is not open)
-You no longer need to specify if you are loading an uncompressed grp, only if you are saving to one
PyICE:
-The IScript Editor now shows at most 5 of the script ID's (that were selected when it was opened) in its title
-The IScript Entries list now only shows entries that are actually in the file
-Added support for custom IScript ID's greater then the default iscript.bin's highest ID
-Added a new special header extension (like the GRP frames extension from v1.5) to define a custom name for IScript entries
PyLO:
-Updated the previewer, now it is located in the main window, can preview GRP's, and allows drag and drop for changing offsets
PyTBL:
-Added a text previewer
-Added the color list to the main window and removed the colors window
PyTILE:
-Added tile Group, MegaTile, and MiniTile Importing/Exporting to the Tile Palette window

As well as lots of bug fixes. I highly recommend updating!

[bajadulce Santa Cruz, California]

PyAI:
-The Script Editor now shows at most 5 of the script ID's (that were selected when it was opened) in its title

This is a good feature. I have been using PyICE quite a bit as well. The Iscript ID Category makes things a lot easier.

[Archon_Wing San Francisco]

Thanks!

[poiuy_qwert Canada]

I knew you would like that baja

Here is just a sneak peak at the next program that will make its way into PyMS:


Its still missing stuff but it will have all the features of WinMPQ except for file drag and drop support (I really wish i could have it since it makes things that much easier, but there is just no way to do it). And yes the list does look kinda funny, the reason is there is no native list like what WinMPQ uses in the GUI toolkit I use, so i had to make it myself with limited control.

Comments? Ideas?

More:

This is the PyICE find window for searching the various lists. Its not only a sweet feature, it is also my test for the tree view (since i had to make it myself out of a text box and some images), which will also make its way into PyDAT for the units list.

[poiuy_qwert Canada]

Well there havn't been any new bugs/ideas for a while, so I will be releasing the next version REAL soon, most likely when I finish the first version of PyMPQ. On that note, here are updated screenshots of PyMPQ:

[poiuy_qwert Canada]

Ok I've released PyMS v1.2.1, and the important features of the release are:
- Added PyMPQ
- Added a find window in PyICE
- Fixed many bugs
- Made PyTRG's loading faster as well as added RawCond and RawAct for easy raw condition and action creation

[Zelduck California, US]

Man, you've done so much more work on this stuff! It's amazing how many different tools you've made now!